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huce (guest)

28 Apr 2009 1:44 PM  

I've just witnessed a man lead two horses onto the gree area near the entrance to Graham Rd. He hss then attempted to put a fence around the grass. It looks to me like he's dumped these animals there. I have their pictures and van details.

Do i report this the the RSPCA?

huce (guest)

28 Apr 2009 2:03 PM  

I've just spoken to the RSPCA. They told me that travellers often do this, and that the owner should look after the animals daily unitl they move on. If it appears that the animals have been abandoned, then the RSPCA can be contacted on 0300 1234 999.

If the horses should escape onto the road, the police should be called.

Lu3ke (guest)

02 May 2009 1:25 AM  
Hey! Sounds like Free Horses to me! Score!
Nick Warren (admin)User is Offline

Posts:139

05 May 2009 7:22 AM  

I've had the following response from the City Council - if anyone has more info about the vehicle, please can they pass it on directly to Dave Prinsep.

Thanks, Nick

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Mr Warren

We have visited site a couple of times but not when anyone has been present with the horses. I read on the Forum that somebody had details of a vehicle visiting the horses and it would be helpful if this information could be provided to see if we can track down the owners. We will also leave some notices on site for the owners. They do not have our permission to be there.

Please let me know if you have any further details that may assist.

Thank you.

Dave Prinsep
Head of Property & Building Services
Cambridge City Council
The Guildhall, Cambridge, CB2 3QJ
Tel: 01223 457431

 

anon (guest)

07 May 2009 2:41 PM  

The registration number of the van was ???????, a silver ford transit.

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Nick Warren (admin)User is Offline

Posts:139

07 May 2009 4:03 PM  
Thanks, I've reported this to Dave Prinsep and asked him to keep me informed of progress...

Nick
chadwick (guest)

11 May 2009 1:34 PM  

The two horses are a very welcome sight. They brighten the place up and stop arbury park looking like such a xxxx-hole.

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chipmunk3774 (guest)

12 May 2009 7:19 AM  
I don't think it looks like a ****hole with or without horses!
chadwick (guest)

12 May 2009 1:42 PM  

have you been to arbury park lately? I live on arbury park and all I see is wasteland and builders rubbish.

chipmunk3774 (guest)

12 May 2009 2:20 PM  

I live on Orchard Park and we are working on clearing it up, I went for a walk recently in the sun and am pleased with how it's shaping up. You should have seen it when we moved in 2 years ago!

chadwick (guest)

12 May 2009 5:06 PM  

I have been here a year and I have to say I have noticed an improvement. There is still a long way to go though and I cant help feeling shortchanged somehow as regards to community facilitys, roads, pavements, sports center, post box, shops etc..

When the site is finished it will probably be all good but when will this be?

 

Lu3keUser is Offline

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12 May 2009 6:54 PM  
It is a shame about the builders' waste (timber and fencing and the like), but it is such a pleasure having open, relatively wild, space. I think all-in-all, Orchard Park is a much nicer place to live in right now than it will be once all that open space is filled in by nasty blocks of flats.

Nick Warren (admin)User is Offline

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13 May 2009 1:29 AM  

I posted a reply to this last night, but the web site ate it as it occasionally does for me (anyone else have that problem?) - one of the several reasons why I'm changing this to www.insideorchardpark.com!!

Anyhooo, the gist of what I said was something like...we will have to live with construction and some builders materials etc for a a couple of years yet - anyone who has moved here without knowing this has been mis-led.

But that doesn't mean we should allow them to be untidy - Impington Parish Council (who we came under until 1 April) has pressed South Cambs and Gallagher to tidy the site and force the builders to keep it tidy. Orchard Park Community Council have continued this pressure since the start of April, and as a councillor from 8 June (as will be Chipmunk!!), I can state that I and a number of other councillors will be continuing to make this a priority.

There have been huge improvements, particularly after the wind-down in building progress, but now that is picking up again, we must ensure they don't fall back in to bad habits.

Resident involvement in this is important - if you see something that you don't like, report it to the council, or to me, or on this (or www.insideorchardpark.com or IOP for short) web site...preferably with a picture and as much detail as possible...don't just let it go and assume there's nothing that can be done!!!

The more people that let bad behaviour, criminal behaviour, anti-social behaviour, negligence, lack of care, etc pass them by without commenting or reacting, then the more those activities will be accepted as the standard and the norm, and we will end up living in a ghetto.

We have the opportunity to set the standards for our new development and new community, and that is what I've been fighting for over the last 2+ years...

From 8 June, we will have a local government council (Orchard Park Community Council as it is called, or OPCC for short!!) that is comprised of 9 people of whom 8 are Orchard Park residents - these are people who strongly want to support their community and are willing giving their time (voluntarily!!) to establish, direct and support the process of managing Orchard Park. Over the next 10 years or so, OPCC will be spending something like £120-150k of money each year on managing and maintaining pretty much all of the facilities across the development, including the community centre, parks, play areas, sports facilities etc. It's really important that the council understand the priorities and concerns of the residents, and will (I hope!!) be making every effort to canvas these regularly, but it also needs residents to engage with the council and tell them (us!!) what is happening, when their are issues.

I believe we have an opportunity with OPCC to set a new standard for local council...this forum thread is probably not the best place to outline my ideas, so perhaps I'll blog it on IOP in the next week or two...keep an eye out!!

Every resident can play their part in making OP a lovely community...it REALLY, REALLY is wihtin our power at this time, but failure to make our mark now, failure to draw lines, set boundaries and standards at this time, will leave us more and more impotent as time goes by...

Thanks, Nick

ps that's considerably more than I said last night...but I got on one of my pet subjects...sorry!!!

sharry71User is Offline

Posts:1

13 May 2009 4:11 AM  
I thought we were all supposed to be green minded on here, I think that its a lovely site and my children love it.
What possible harm are they causing, its educational too.
Much better than the drug scene and thoughtless hoodies that are already here.

So leave them alone, the people that own them are very polite especially when we asked if it was ok for our kids to feed them a carrot or two occassionally.
Nick Warren (admin)User is Offline

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13 May 2009 1:16 PM  

This isn't about being green. The horse owners do not have permission to use this land (which belongs to Cambridge City Council) so it is trespass. How would you feel if people started camping on these undeveloped land parcels? Or someone started storing other things there? So this is also about ensuring that people aren't allowed to do whatever they please without due regard to those whose land it is, and those who live in the neighbourhood. There must be some consideration shown.

It may well be lovely to have them there, but unless they are properly enclosed and the land has been properly prepared (waste building materials removed for example), it may well be unsafe for the horses to be homed there, and unsafe for people living or walking in the area, if the horses were to become scared and bolt out of their inadequate fencing - I have no idea what constitutes caring for them either - do they have adequate water for example? At the very least someone should have contact details for the owners in case of an incident.

I'm all for making use of the undeveloped land, but I am utterly against people abusing situations and selfishness - there is far too much of this demonstrated all over our lovely development, by the developers, the builders as well as residents, and I'd be keen to tackle all examples - "letting things go" is the thin end of the wedge, and before we know it we will all be very unhappy.

Nick

davey (guest)

17 May 2009 11:43 AM  
So after the little pony got out the other day for a lovely wander around Graham Road (what a shock, I don't think) they've put another fence within the field to try and contain the ponies to a tiny section of the field. Unfortunately, much like the main fence, this new fence is the most pathetic thing I've ever seen and both ponies have been crossing back and forth as much as they please.
I mean what?! A bit of string and some traffic cones?! Give me a break
davey (guest)

17 May 2009 1:30 PM  
Ah, what with the winning combination of the fence being a pile of rubbish that the ponies can easily walk through, and the adult pony being tethered to a stake, the adult has now managed (on one of its many trips back and forth through the fence) to tie its rope round and round one of the fence posts and is now on a tether of about 1 metre. Still, I imagine that as soon as it moves the whole fence will just fall down, so it shouldn't be stuck for long.

Utterly, utterly baffling.

Wonder if these guys could do me a good price on a child's stair-gate? (a traffic cone at the top of the stairs maybe?)
Tod (guest)

18 May 2009 11:46 PM  
How about ringing the RSPCA and the council daily until someone comes and gets them?
davey (guest)

19 May 2009 8:14 AM  
I'm not bothered by the fact that they're there, just by the fact that the guy can't be bothered to enclose them properly. Illegal ponies in a field with a proper fence? Fine, I can live with that.

The little one gets braver and more curious by the day. He's already getting used to hanging out on the pavement of Graham Road and he's only got to wander a few metres to get onto King's Hedges Road, which, as we know, has a 5 million mile an hour speed limit and entirely optional red lights. So I wouldn't like to be the one to clean up the mess after a pony's wandered into the road.
Anyway, I've already seen the young pony having to be put back in the field several times, as it tries to run away from and kick the people going after it. I'm damned if I'm going to go after it next time it decides to wander round Graham Road and the owner isn't contactable because he's not in any way officially registered to be there.
davey (guest)

21 Jun 2009 6:19 PM  
Well the horses have been gone a few weeks now, but I notice the green is still covered in horse dung, hay, and the various bits of junk (string, traffic cones, plastic bottles, plastic bags) that the owners made that ridiculous fence out of. Looks like the owners have no intention of ever clearing that stuff up.
I guess they weren't as harmless and polite as many people seemed to think?

As Nick tried to explain, if someone uses land without permission and nothing is done about it, they will just start taking the p*** as we have seen here. If someone moves in without permission and we just "let it go", they won't respond with gratitude and politeness but take us for what they can get, as we have now seen.
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